Thanks to everyone who responded so far, following on from this: What are some ways city-folk can build solidarity with rural movements? What does solidarity between urban and rural movements often look like?
@GreenandBlack Sad I missed the original thread, though I'm new to trying to organize in rural communities, one thing I've already noticed is how different each community views it's history and in particular it's history with/of labour movements. So each place requires a local approach and a local focus lead by folks who, if not from there, live there and have made themselves a part of the community.
No organizing built from outside can compete with locals, and imo it won't last if you try.
> Many of these communities embrace modern conservatism because it sells them the narrative of "returning to when things were good" (ie. when people could afford groceries), and there's an interestig paradox in how this is often marketed using the terminology of traditional labour movements - which built most of these communities and which haven't been forgotten.
@GreenandBlack So the right will sell tax breaks for the rich, massive land scales, exploititive working environments, and ecological devastation by calling it labour rights, worker rights, and a rural worker's movement - one setup to counter the "liberal big business" elites (even as they continue to cement capital and power in the hands of massive corporations/the irvings(here), and extract more and more from rural communities).
@GreenandBlack > So learning about the history of these communities and the labour movements in their pasts can be key to dispelling the reactionary narrative, and it can give you an "in" using the same stories and tools the right-wing politicians have already gotten them familiar with.
> At the same time, these folks often have a strong sense of community and collective ethos - they may just not recognize it that way. So arguments for collectivism that recognize the collective work and community they are already doing/already have are powerful, and collective arguments using the language of individual benefit can make quick progress.
@GreenandBlack > So far I have the feeling that change and progress can be very very quick. I have already had a ton of success in helping to build a small-but-growing group of locals interesting in radical politics and in particular ecological defence, and with the right spark it could quickly hit critical mass - and it may! But it could also blow up in my face, especially as a semi-outsider.
> So my advice to folks from urban centres, is to use active listening, learn about the specific community you are talking to, and work with those already taking action. Most of these communities would not still be here without folks working to keep them alive - find them, and let them lead. Your role is to educate and provide resources, it should rarely be to lead.
@GreenandBlack > ALSO COOL RURAL ACAB BONUS:
Nobody except for the very very rich (and they all are hardly here) trust the fucking cops. Centring the police's role in maintaining capital and social inequity can be a quick way to find common ground. They likely already understand this, and they likely already hate them for it.
@BunnyHearted thankyou so much for the response! best of luck with your future endeavors, a mutual aid org sounds exciting :D
@GreenandBlack oh no worries! This thread made me so happy, and I am so excited to read other responses too. I bet there's a lot us rural anarcho-gays could learn from each-other too :).
Honestly a MA org is sorely needed out here, people are having a hard time, and staying fed and warm alone is often unaffordable. I do little bits when I can, but I'm trying to get a small group together for late fall/winter to do a ton of baking and just. Go give people bread & tea & maybe bread-zines :D.
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