So, I've been thinking. And you're all right. Neutral will never bring on change.

#FLOSS is riddled with the "we must stay neutral" mentality, this creates a problem in this space, it simply isn't safe for minorities to participate in a lot of the conversations.

This means being neutral isn't neutral at all.

Who's onboard to work on FLOSS from an anti-racist, intersectional feminist perspective?

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@maloki I tried for years, well before the present uptick in extremely online fascism and their ~radical centrist~ enablers, but I got burned out and, in some ways, pushed out.

To me foss has always felt like a coiled spring aching with anticapitalist and radical potential, but so much of it (yesterday&today) is run by dipshits who are heavy invested in the status quo. & While I don't have a lot of faith... seeing actually-rad foss folks on mastodon is giving me some srs hope tho!

@BunnyHearted
I once knew a guy who worked at Red Hat as a community organizer. He was a fiercely anti-chavist Venezuelan expat who claimed to have absolutely no interest in the social and political message of FOSS and once even told me "I don't care, I want to enjoy capitalism"

If these are the folks who organise the community, we have a ton of work on our hands...

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@Antanicus
I mean, yeah, I know. But I'm going to look for allies first, and go from there. Doesn't have to be all at once, but we will spoon our way forward to make a change.
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@maloki
Don't get me wrong I didn't mean to de-motivate you in any way, I just wanted to share a bit of personal experience that reinforces your point :)

I've been promoting the idea of replacing BDFL figures with accountable and democratic co-operative governance for years, so this is definitely my fight too.

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@Antanicus yeah! I got it, kind of. I just wanted to emphasize what my thoughts are.

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@Antanicus @maloki I may have even been in the same circles as that person (though I think I would remember them if we ever met irl, lol). I did know a lot of folks who (like myself) were working with open source software/various *nixes in the fancy business world who saw it as a form of harm reduction... but in the end the systems we built were no less harmful than anything else coming from the corporate world at the time. Just cheaper. :blobmiou:

@BunnyHearted thank you. I mean we got to start somewhere.

I've been involved with foss/floss and some hacktivism since 10 years, and coming in as a woman I think I was lucky with which space I came in to, as I've mostly been allowed to thrive.

We'll see where this takes us, I have some folks (and con organisers) I'm going to reach out to, once this becomes a more solid idea.

@maloki I think a big part of what got burned out was the corporate work I was doing and the massively harmful outcomes of it ('big data' was maybe a mistake, lol), and how little it meshed with my own developing politics.

Coming into foss spaces while pretending to be a boy was definitely easier than being in foss spaces as a woman - whether I was stealth or openly trans too. It was... Uh. Well I'm excited for a more inclusive, anti-fascist open source movement, lol.

@maloki you know things are fucked when even running `svn update` might fill your term with slurs and harassment :blobnom:

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